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1/20/10 11:40 P

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also i read this blog today that may be helpful for this thread. it's from one of my favorite people, chaleane johnson from turbo jam: www.dailyspark.com/blog.asp?post=why
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~Jess, but you can call me Jessica for short

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1/20/10 11:39 P

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wow ladies that was very useful information thanx so much!!!!!!

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1/17/10 11:36 A

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I'm SO glad I'm not the only one having this problem...I was getting so frustrated...guess I need to learn to be a little more patient :)

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1/16/10 12:13 A

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I totally agree!!! I didnt realize I was sabotaging my own diet....i was eating only 800cals a day...and burning close to 500cals in cardio!!! my body was starving!!

Also...WATER IS THE KEY!!!! I just now figured that out!! The more water u drink the less water u retain!! It seems lately with a steady diet and HEALTHY foods and cardio...and now drinking at least 60oz my lbs are really melting off!!!

My friend who is a physical therapist says u should give ur body at LEAST 3wks but u see a real change from working out. I would always give up after a week bc i didnt lose like 20lbs!! Right now ur body is saying "hey what r u doing to me??"

Keep on it girl!!!! Ur going make it!!!

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1/15/10 10:35 P

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He flat out told me I need to leave it along and he said it has alot of white flour and butter. I guess I will. It makes sense but makes me so sad

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1/15/10 5:53 P

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that makes sense (i wouldn't give away my recipe either). i don't want you to have to deprive yourself, but maybe until he puts a label on it, try to choose another sin but one with a label emoticon . you could also do a google search to find out what the general ingredients for that sort of thing might be, just to give you an idea. i know for me, i had to cut out all processed foods and white flour. everyone's different though. it probably has lots of saturated fat, trans fat, high fructose corn syrup, and bleached enriched flour. all stuff you wanna stay away from. wish i could help you more!

~Jess, but you can call me Jessica for short

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"Nothing can stop the man with the right mental attitude from achieving his goal; nothing on earth can help the man with the wrong mental attitude."~Thomas Jefferson


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1/15/10 5:47 P

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He won't give me the recipe even though I explained why I wanted it. He said that they are getting fact labels soon but idk how long that will be. I guess I SHOULD stop eating it completely because he did say that it wasn't healthy at all....but it's like my guilty sin.

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1/15/10 4:38 P

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Thank you sooo much. I've asked this question on a few threads and didn't get the answer. Your so amazing. I think I love u. emoticon

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1/15/10 3:20 P

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ah i see. yes, you can still track it. if you can get the recipe, then you can put it in the recipe calculator at sparkrecipes ( recipes.sparkpeople.com ). there is a link on the finished recipe "add to nutrition tracker", click that and voila! you might be surprised at what is in there (or how much butter). when i finally started tracking EVERYTHING, i could see why i was having trouble losing weight. hope it helps!

~Jess, but you can call me Jessica for short

"Winning doesn't always mean being first; winning means you're doing better than you've done before."

"Nothing can stop the man with the right mental attitude from achieving his goal; nothing on earth can help the man with the wrong mental attitude."~Thomas Jefferson


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1/15/10 3:17 P

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The pastry is from a carribean bakery. It's not like a corporate company so they don't package it. If I found out the recipe do u think I could track it?

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1/15/10 1:56 P

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you should be able to track/log anything. does your pastry come in a package? use their nutritional info and enter it yourself on your nutrition tracker. i also make a lot of my own stuff because i just don't trust when other people prepare my food; you never know what's in it!!

so i have gone to several websites about bmr. you can try either one of these
health.discovery.com/tools/calculato
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www.bmi-calculator.net/bmr-calculato
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then i used this site to incorporate my activity level (please note that i have no clue how accurate this is).
www.bmi-calculator.net/bmr-calculato
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but keep in mind that sparkpeople figures in all of this when they give you a calorie range, so you shouldn't need to adjust your calories.

and i know how you feel, i don't have insurance (or money) either. my first order of business when i do get this stuff is to see a dietitian (i have a thyroid issue too, so i really need help with my diet). best of luck!

~Jess, but you can call me Jessica for short

"Winning doesn't always mean being first; winning means you're doing better than you've done before."

"Nothing can stop the man with the right mental attitude from achieving his goal; nothing on earth can help the man with the wrong mental attitude."~Thomas Jefferson


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1/15/10 1:51 P

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Yes I realize the fruit having water just today I read the article about that. I just put down three almost four cups so far for today. As for my intack I'm sure it more than 700 Amy given day but again some things I just don't know how to log. Like pasties, I love them soo much but idk what it's made of or how much so I don't know how to log it. I don't have insurance so the idea of professional help is out of the question. I would like to know my BMR.

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1/15/10 11:21 A

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sorry if i was nosy, but i just want to help! do some research on your own. it's hard to just lump everyone into the same category and give them advice. if you have money/time/insurance you should see a nutritionist or registered dietitian. it's not uncommon that doctors tell certain people to go on a strict low calorie diet, but i disagree with this method. it's good to know your bmr as well (basal metabolic rate). don't get me wrong though, you should be working out to burn off excess calories (sp suggests a 500 calorie deficit daily through both exercise and diet), but you shouldn't balance out at 0. for instance, i don't think it's healthy if you eat 700 calories a day, then burn 600 in exercise. that means your body is only getting 100 calories to perform. if your bmr is 1500, then you are shorting yourself 1400 calories to perform basic functions (like digestion, blood flow, being able to think, etc).

and the water. ugh believe me, i hate water! before i started on spark, i was lucky if i drank 2 cups of water in a week. i just never felt thirsty. now i drink anywhere between 16-24 glasses per DAY. i don't drink anything but water. and this is coming from someone who used to drink coke everyday and also energy drinks (monster) daily. i still crave that stuff, but i just can't afford it in calories! and i will easily admit that i do give in to the cravings every so often. oh and drinking 8 glasses is super easy if you get a 32 oz water bottle. fill it up twice throughout the day, and you're set! i fill mine up so much, i don't bother counting anymore. don't forget that there is water in foods (like fruit). anyway, good luck!!

~Jess, but you can call me Jessica for short

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"Nothing can stop the man with the right mental attitude from achieving his goal; nothing on earth can help the man with the wrong mental attitude."~Thomas Jefferson


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1/15/10 9:58 A

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Yes your right water is better from a sports bottle. I have one but I'll have to get two more. I usually freeze one so it's cold throughtout the day, but I usually have to wait for it to melt. So even if I wanna drink water during my hour drive to school I can't.

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1/15/10 9:39 A

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MBOY - you should really try to make yourself drink at least 8 glasses a day.. and when you work out you need more than that. I lost 5 pounds of water weight in the first week just from upping my water intake! It is so good for you and your body that it's worth the effort to make it a habit. Try drinking it out of a sports top bottle - I find water goes down faster from those for some reason!

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1/15/10 12:58 A

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Wow thank you I had no idea. I thought I was suppose to burn the caleries and not replace it. Like lose weight n try not to get it back kind of thing. There are some foods that I don't log but only bc idk the nutrition facts for it. N to be honest some days I just don't track bc I get busy with school. Like yesterday I ate super healthy worked out almost completed my 10,000 step but didn't log it. Idk sometimes I guilt myself about eating nonhealthy foods like fries. They are my favorite in the world but I feel like I would be completely messing up healthy habit if I ate it and get upset. I know that i am messing up by not getting enough water but I just don't drink that much liquids. I drink 2-4 cups when I workout but that's about it

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1/14/10 10:39 P

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mboyc001, i just checked out your food and fitness tracker, and the first thing i noticed is your calories are super low! unless you're not tracking all your food? read up on starvation modes, and that might explain why your body is hanging on to extra pounds. most people agree that a woman should consume no less than 1200 calories a day (and that includes the minus you get from calorie burn). for instance, if you burn 300 calories in exercise, you should consume about 1500 calories to make sure your body doesn't go in starvation mode. i finally adjusted my calorie range to reflect my 3500 calories i burn a week in exercise. i can eat 1450-1800 calories a day. somedays i am over the 1200 line and some days i accidentally fall under it. it seems to be working for me. good luck!

~Jess, but you can call me Jessica for short

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"Nothing can stop the man with the right mental attitude from achieving his goal; nothing on earth can help the man with the wrong mental attitude."~Thomas Jefferson


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1/14/10 10:33 P

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it's kinda hard to explain (at least for me), but burning fat doesn't matter. the more calories you burn, the better. it's all about calories in/calories out. you will burn more calories with cardio, especially if it exceeds 20 minutes. strength training should be done after cardio since you continue to burn calories for about 2 hours after you finish strength training. i thought i read an article on here that explained the whole "fat burning range" vs. "aerobic range." sorry if this was confusing, but i would suggest reading some articles on here about it.

~Jess, but you can call me Jessica for short

"Winning doesn't always mean being first; winning means you're doing better than you've done before."

"Nothing can stop the man with the right mental attitude from achieving his goal; nothing on earth can help the man with the wrong mental attitude."~Thomas Jefferson


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1/14/10 10:25 P

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Actually same happened to me. But I've been at this for almost a month n the five lbs I gained has left yet :( so I up my cardio. Actually I have another question, a friend of mine explained that cardio makes you loos caleries annd not fat is this true? If so how do you burn fat exactly?

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1/14/10 9:14 P

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I agree with Raraavis.

Muscle weighs more then fat. So as you continue to eat healthy and exercise, you may notice the numbers don't change as much as you'd like but other indicators like clothing and body measurements are a better indicator.

This is the way I think about weight loss: You didn't gain the weight overnight or the course of a week. It's going to be the same coming back off.

Are you drinking enough water? I read an article here that if you're not drinking enough water, your body will hold onto it. As your body gets used to 8+ glasses a day, you'll lose some of that water weight.

But keep at it and you will make progress.

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1/14/10 3:10 P

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you are definitely not going to see a big difference in only a week! if this is the first time you've started working out, it is normal you gained weight. you're using muscles you haven't used in awhile (if ever). and your diet isn't only about how much you consume but what you consume as well. for the first month to month and half on here, i gained 5lbs and stayed there regardless of my exercise or diet. i've been on here 3 months now and am finally seeing a loss. your body needs time to adjust. and weight gain doesn't mean you have gotten fatter. i always suggest taking your measurements when you start this lifestyle change. i take mine every month or so. some people do it every couple of weeks. but weight is not the only way to measure your success. also take note of your energy levels, how your body reacts to exercising, etc. you might start seeing changes way before the scale reflects it.

~Jess, but you can call me Jessica for short

"Winning doesn't always mean being first; winning means you're doing better than you've done before."

"Nothing can stop the man with the right mental attitude from achieving his goal; nothing on earth can help the man with the wrong mental attitude."~Thomas Jefferson


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Hi, I've been working out for a week. I've tried to do 45 minutes of cardio, and maybe 20 minutes to 30 minutes of weight training, and weigh myself weekly. I watched what I ate, and definitely didn't eat more than when I started. I gained weight though, when I checked my weight. 2-3 lbs...

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