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6/28/13 9:08 A

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Yeah, I started out quite clueless about cars. Learned a lot by trial and error. Mostly error!

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6/27/13 10:52 A

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No water? No good, Phebe. You can't even have a cuppa to soothe the disappointment of not being able to drive to your destination.

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My dear friend (who was my teacher in HS, but we've grown past that) had an MGA, and used to drive me around in it. He now has the Healey 3000, which is also wonderful. But he also knows enough to tinker with it, keep it tuned up, etc. Me, I forget to put water in the radiator.

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6/26/13 9:56 A

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in the early-ish 1970's a friend treated herself to a 1952 MGB and had it restored. It was glorious to ride the country roads in that sweet roadster. She brought it down to the city only once or twice. It lived at a shop in NY's Delaware County, where she had a weekend house. She was fortunate to find a local mechanic who knew the spiffy imports.

The car in the link is black (not so cool). My friend's was maroon (originally the dark green). The two colors are far better suited to the design, I think.

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Yeah, Cher's fashion is kind of in a class by itself. Outré comes to mind.


I think anyone could drive a sports car. The problem with old British sports cars is that you need to have a mechanic on call, 24-hrs a day.

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6/25/13 12:37 P

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Either of those will look good on me. Am I too old for them?

Years ago Cher wondered whether she'd become too old to wear her motorcycle jacket. I don't know if she retired it, but the other things she wears up to today go way beyond.

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Either one works for me!

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6/24/13 10:38 P

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MGA or maybe an Austin Healey 3000.


We're still in the first year of our travels - but we could begin filming - do you prefer NZ or Australia?

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6/24/13 5:37 P

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Whichever model is older or oldest. The first sentence at this website was confusing enough:

www.ritzsite.nl/FORD_1/03_eford.htm

Not bad looking autos.

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Model Ts or Model Es [is it?], Laurie? emoticon

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We're nothing if not exotic. The more exotic the location(s), the better.

Hey, that gives me an idea (take cover!). I recall the book only vaguely, but how about using as a model the dark carnival of Ray Bradbury's "Something Wicked this Way Comes?" We can soup our movie up any way we like. (There's my age again -- borrowing from "souped-up" cars. Why don't I go all out and talk about jalopies?)



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O.K. so I'm in. But let's film somewhere exotic. Between Phebe's blog and the geoguesser thread- I've caught the traveling bug but can't go anywhere!

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Dvora, you sure can have a cameo. As many as you'd like. The recurring tourist? A carnival performer? The lady from whose windowsill a hobo steals the pie she set to cool? You can tell I've seen some old movies and cartoons.
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6/24/13 4:16 A

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Definitely! I think we could get the entire team involved in this project!

If nothing else, people could be hanging out in pokies - I hug my machines when they give me free spins or a big win - and yes, people gape at me. Or maybe laugh. I don't care, it seems to help me get bigger wins and the occasional jackpot.

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You guys crack me up. I really needed a laugh- so thanks for providing one. Do you think I could cameo as well? I've always wanted to be on stage...

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6/23/13 11:46 P

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Both of those sound good to me, Phebe. Or I can be a passer-by who stops to gape at your off-beat antics.

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6/23/13 8:11 P

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Would you like to be one of the people we just start chatting with somewhere? Maybe at the Carnegie, over matzah ball soup? Or at a cafe in Sydney? (We met a lady from California yesterday, she and her husband emigrated to NZ but their sons now live in Sydney.)

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Edmund Gwenn, yeah. Jennifer Lawrence, yeah. As co-director of the movie, I want a little cameo spot, just the way Alfred Hitchcock put himself into an early scene of each movie.


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6/23/13 2:49 A

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Just checked - I don't think I have it blocked, but who knows?

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6/23/13 2:20 A

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Current status / feed. Sorry I wasn't clearer. Many have it blocked without intending it to be and Spark Central can't fix the glitch.

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My friend feed? Or my updates? (I'm confused.)

We saw Silver Linings Playbook, enjoyed it - and the diner, where he takes her for dinner and just orders raisin bran? Just up the road from where DH's parents used to live! DH and I always go visit their graves, then stop at the Llanerch diner for brunch - I love their waffles! We even had T'day dinner there one year, with BIL - love the place!

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In the interest of full disclosure, Phebess, I had to look it up.

Really like your feed. Too bad it's glitched like so many others, being set to "private".

Jennifer Lawrence seems very real and grounded. She's really going to go places. I just saw her in "The Silver Linings Playbook".

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Ah, THAT's the guy! I remember watching that with my mom. (She didn't think he looked like her dad, but she did think he was a cute old guy.)

Jennifer Lawrence would be good as me - she comes across as really quirky, LOL! Plus she says she refuses to lose weight for movies, because then she looks too thin in real life. I love that logic!

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6/23/13 1:09 A

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Then Edmund Gwenn it is, Phebess. After all, it is your grandpa.

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You all crack me up - absolutely crack me up!

Hmmmm - Grandpa Irving, in my memory, looked kind of like a Jewish version of the guy who plays Kris Kringle in "Miracle on 42nd Street" - short, a little heavy, smiling eyes. This grandfather is also the one who called me a little mamserle.

Gregory Peck is hot, but looks nothing like anyone in my family. Sad but true.

More hmmmmm - my dad could be played by Dustin Hoffman, though we'd have to age him for current times.........well, he's taller than Dustin, but he looks like a cross between Abe Lincoln and Moses. More and more like Moses as he ages.

DH looks like Jeff Goldblum with about 80 extra lbs, LOL - scarily so!

(Though I personally would rather have Patrick Dempsey play his part. Oooh, and then I could play me and just hang out with Patrick D - with those melting eyes - I could do that!)

Can I just add that Liam Neeson in "Schindler's List" looked much like my middle brother?

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6/23/13 12:27 A

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Ooooh, Dustin Hoffman, yes. An excellent choice and he fits the Jewish theme, too.

I wonder how many carnies and hobos were Jewish. I'll bet there is info available.

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6/22/13 10:47 P

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Now that Dustin Hoffman has aged, can we compromise with him? [Phebess, are you enjoying all this? :) ]

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Dvora, pull up a chair. This has yet to be settled.

Nu, do you know that Gregory Peck is my all-time, number one, champion matinee idol? He is the perfect man in all ways -- a fine actor and a human being of impeccable quality, not to mention handsome as the millennium is long. Peter O'Toole fits two of the general categories; I know nothing of his reputation as a human being. I see neither in the role of hobo. Nu, I think you're looking for the love interes in Phebe's grandpa.

Can we compromise on Cecil Kellaway? He's sweet, good, lovable, twinkly and has depth, not at all the scruffy, terbackuh-spittin' plainsman.

If we can't compromise, there'll just have to be two movie versions of the book, one directed by each of us.

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Definitely not Wallace Beery. I was thinking of Gregory Peck actually, and in his stead along the same lines, ergo O'Toole. These would be seasoned travelers. Not of the cook and canteen on the plains sort.

I respectfully disagree with you, Laurie.

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6/22/13 6:38 P

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Thanks for the good wishes everyone! In the meantime, I'm enjoying Phebe's blog and your banter.

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I picture an old-time character actor type. Peter O'Toole is too handsome, not to cast aspersions on Phebe's grandfather's punim. More like Wallace Beery (but not so beefy), Cecil Kellaway, and some others whose faces I can see but whose names I mix up.

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If you start the research, you'd be surprised at what you might uncover.

Peter O'Toole wouldn't be old school enough?

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I think you've mentioned your colorful grandfather before. The only actors suitable to play him are, sorry to say, long gone. My own grandfathers were more what we'd expect: one [master] tailor and one dress manufacturer. The one, slim hope is that my brother told me eons ago that the tailor had killed someone back in Russia, which is what prompted him to hop on a ship. I'll never know.

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6/22/13 4:36 A

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LOL - it all started with my grandfather the carnival roadie and then a hobo...............

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The movie version will need a few actresses to portray Phebe at different ages. The younger Phebes will have smaller parts just to fill us in on what set her on the world's roadways and the life of an ex-pat.



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You laugh. But stranger things have happened.

Edited by: NUMD97 at: 6/21/2013 (11:10)
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Hmmmmmm, I'll sign a book deal, and then all our travel expenses will be tax deductible - brilliant!

Oooh, maybe they'll do a movie - though I'm not sure who could play me, LOL!

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Phebess, it may be sooner rather than later if you are seeing over 10,000 hits. When you start having numbers like that and it's not friends and family any longer, it just might cross the paths of a publisher. Mark me.

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Ah, DH and I had such fun eating our way across NYC! (Walking, of course, To burn off the calories we ate.)

Dvora, happy upcoming birthday! (And you are a baby! Although, I'm heading to 59 in six weeks or so, so I know how you feel - certain numbers just LOOM ahead ominously!)

Nu, might eventually do a book. When we stop travelling. Maybe in 20 years or so. When I retire from travelling, LOL!

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Dvora, no fair! I'm not sure why, but I took the "Ima" part of your screen name to mean "Grandma." Now I see that the lower left corner of your page makes it clear. Not even 40 yet? Who's under 40 except children? You have to catch up, girl.
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Speaking of food (yes, it was Dvora who brought up chicken), I walked past Katz's Deli and Russ and Daughters today and felt so deprived. Now I'm sorry I didn't stop in and buy a few good things at R&D's. At least it's nice to know they're here. (For those who don't know, both are past 100 years old and among New York's legends. The former is a haven of corned beef, pastrami, brisket and the like, while the latter is an appetizing store.)

Laurie

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I'm turning 40 in July (yes I know that I'm a spring chicken compared to some of you) and I'm still trying to come to terms with it. I am celebrating every day that God gives me to live in good health, and wish all of us lots more of those days.

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Thanks, Laurie. I'll pass it on.

Phebess, I hope that you are considering putting this together in book form. It has tremendous potential.

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I love it! The blog is read by people all over the world, people we don't know - like 10 people in Sri Lanka this week! It's so funny how one thing we write can be read by people all around the world!

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A very merry birthday to Nu's friend. We should celebrate her aunt as well!

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That's so sweet, Phebess!

BTW, my aunt [the almost 96 year old one] is starting to follow your travelblogs. When she was younger, that's what she did, too: Packed a bag and went wherever the mood [and kosher food] struck her. And at 95, she's still as feisty as ever.

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Please wish your friend Happy Birthday for me!

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We aim to please, Phebess.

My best friend's is today. Does that count?

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You two crack me up!

And Dvora, thank you. I went to Venice because that's where it was painted. Could be me in a former lifetime.

So, I think we need a more fun holiday than Tisha B'Av. Such a depressing one.

Does someone have a birthday in June or July that we could celebrate? Have a virtual party? I'll volunteer my virtual hot tub as a place to meet!

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You're fine. I'm too delicate a flower.

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OK, I should have thought better of it.

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What kind of talk is that for the dinner table?
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Well, back in 2009, I overdid it after Yom Kippur and had signs of "Dumping Syndrome". Made me sick to my stomach. Sweaty, nauseous, "and the rest". Could not leave the throne room for a piece. It was awful.

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If you don't eat for a whole day- what does that do to your metabolism?

Phebess: Love that portrait!

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6/18/13 7:31 P

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Ooooooooooooooook. Tisha B'Av?

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Please I am no where ready for the High Holidays...anything but that for at least two months.

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6/18/13 11:15 A

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I'm game. Our talk of matzo balls seems to have gone on longer than Pesach itself. Pick a holiday, any holiday.

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Shouldn't we move on to the next holiday, or am I being premature? Tisha B'Av is next. Or we can go directly to the High Holidays. What say you?

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No explanation was needed; it was clear from the start. "Sinkers" too? I've heard that, but only in old movies as Depression-era or police talk for doughnuts.



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When we talk about matzo balls they are always referred to as sinkers or floaters...my husband makes the best floaters...and since we were talking matzo balls I did not think I had to explain so I went for the short cut.

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I love it. How fun to come across a painting with a strong resemblance.

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This painting seriously looks like me at about age 25-30:

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I thought I recognized you in "The Birth of Venus."

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So Renaissance!

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I love the "goddess" thing. How apt.

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We can do chocolate chips instead.

My name is Phebe Schwartz - when I went to yahoo to open an account, PhebeS was already taken (probably by someone with an O in her name, and whose last name doesn't begin with S) - so instead of going with Phebele, I just stuck on another S. (Like goddess, right?)
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Is that why your screen name ends with a double S?

If rugelach have nuts in them, no matter who makes them, no way will I eat one. No allergy, but nuts give me the heebie-jeebies. (Double E's for your pleasure.)

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You haven't had my rugelach, they aren't hard (but not soft either) - DH probably would do almost anything for my ruggies. When we meet up in NYC, I'll make some rugelach (the lower-fat version, which really doesn't affect the taste) and we can play GeoGuessr!

And yeah, probably piperade - I tend to confuse double letters. As in words like grafitti and frittatta - I never remember where the double letter goes, so I tend to just double both. Covering my bets, so to speak.

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I like the yolk to be a little runny, but the white has to be cooked through. Have heard of pipperade, but think it's piperade (?)

Rugelach are made to tossing around with catchers' mitts. I don't understand how people can eat such rock-like things. Then, again, you may recall that I won't eat latkes (for a different reason). Please don't strip me of my union card.

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LOL at back alley rugelach!

I'm okay with shakshuka (or pipperade if you're Basque) - except my eggs need to be scrambled and well done. I just can't eat poached eggs. Or fried. Gotta be scrambled. And not wet.

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Hours later, I'm still wanting rugelach. Back alley or no.

My hubby loves prosciutto. When he buys some, he claims it is made with beef and that is why it is so red. I pretend to believe him.

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You have to watch out for those back alley rugelach. It's just as well that you couldn't remember your pin number.

Speaking of food, I recently learned what shakshuka (sp?) is and thought it sounded worth a try. Today's brunch menu at an Italian trattoria offered baked eggs, a variation made with (cover your ears if you're kosher) prosciutto and ricotta. Quite good.

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I'm going to blame the dream I just woke up from on this team. (I'm home sick, on antibiotics with an upper respiratory infection and they tried to call me in to work today ANYWAY to take care of a guy with lung cancer, the shm... oh, how do you spell it again?)

After lunch (the second problem. The call was the first problem.) I went upstairs for a nap in a hot room (the third problem) and dreamed that I was supposed to be working, cleaning up a restaurant but instead I went sneaking off down the alley to buy rugelach. But when I got there, I couldn't remember the pin number to my debit card so I couldn't buy any. Rugelach! I haven't made or bought that in years. I blame it on you.

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Elizabeth, I've never heard them called "floaters" before. At my age, floaters are the dust motes and cobwebs one imagines seeing in one's line of vision.

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I grew up in a decidedly non observant family so I learned from songs. One is -el and two is -ach! At least according to lyrical tradition!

It was a good thing they didn't give that kid a word that could start with "sch" or "sh" or "ch" or "h". Even Chanukah is often spelled Hannukah or Chanukkah. So which is it? Depends on where you grew up! What is the saying about two Jews, three opinions?


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I tried to say Shabbos all the way through but my spell check would not allow it.

I may make the chicken soup in the family but my husband makes the floaters. I gave up making matzo balls when I got married because he likes to make them.

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Phebe, I think the rubber ones have a longer shelf life.

Elizabeth Huggable, that's a sweet story. Interesting to me that, in one paragraph, you say "Shabbos" and "Shabbat." But the Yiddish-Hebrew thing is a not-major topic for me.

Laurie

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My mom always served three knaidlach which got me to think about my Shabbos candle holder. When I got married she gave me one that held three candles. While I was growing up she only lit two. She explained to me that when she lit Shabbat candles there were only two in our family and being that I was a single mother when I got married we were a family of three.

My mom can't make chicken soup to save her life so when we had it, my aunt or someone else made it and brought it over until I learned how to make soup. When we ate soup there was always at least three family members sitting at the table.

So one is knaidel, two is a couple, but three is knaidlach!!

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Yeah, my dad likes his knaidlach so hard they could bounce!

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I read about that kid, Laurie, the other day. Seems he has been awfully close on about three occasions and it was the German-derived words that always did him in. This year he changed his strategy and the penultimate word was German. The last, Yiddish, and he aced it, as we now know. Goes to show ya, never give up, and adjust your strategy accordingly.

Knaidel is the way we know it, and knaidlAch as the plural. But it's all good! Especially if you master the art of making it. 'Course there was that one year, my sister, the mathematician in the family, doubled the recipe but somehow got the ratios wrong and we had hockey pucks that year for the seder dinner. My mother was so embarrassed, and family lore now quotes my mother's good friend's mother [especially if there is a screw up], "Some people like it like that." She was the epitome of grace.

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Because three of a kind look right, unlike two or four. Some of the odd numbers are visually well rounded.

So, "knaidlich" is the plural or a species, you say?

We may have had "The Joys of Yiddish" when I was a kid. It had slipped my mind, but I'd like to get a copy. It's on my next purchase list.



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Ahhhhhhhhhh - that makes sense, my mother never served one of anything! (We always ate knaidlich in 3s, I don't know why.)

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We had one knaidel and two knaidelich growing up.

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We always use Leo Rosten's "The Joys of Yiddish" as the definitive source - of course, we don't have a copy with us.

But in my family, we always had knaidlich - not knaidel. Don't know why. Different kind of Yiddish?

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Must admit, I haven't worried too much about Yiddish transliteration. I tend to focus more on the bizarre ways Hebrew is transliterated on signs here (the only rule seems to be never use the same spelling twice)... or English transliteration, for that matter. Love the "STIP HILL" signs.... Forget about the fact that "steep" is actually an English word-- try explaining to Israelis that "i" doesn't usually say "ee" when your name is Lisa! :-)

But yeah, I don't know that I'd come up with "knaidel".

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A boy from Queens (yeah!) won this year's national spelling bee by spelling "knaidel." The inclusion of a Yiddish word doesn't call for a hora, but I think it bears consideration based on transliteration.

As far as I knew, having done no research until two minutes ago, there was no formal system of transliteration from Yiddish to English. YIVO, however, has a table for the task and, I suspect, it's honored by linguists, translators and others with a keen need and interest. The Library of Congress also has a system, but I didn't look closely enough to see if it is the YIVO system.

Formal system or no, it seems to be that the spelling bee folks were treading on thin latkes. We see so many variations on Yiddish words using the Roman alphabet and, I think, at least most are widely accepted. "Knaidel" would never have occurred to me. Had I occasion to write the word, I'd lean toward "knoedl," which shows up in Google along with "knoedel" and "kneidel" and...

Anyone know a definitive answer to the question of authority?

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