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3/8/10 2:49 P

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Glad to hear you talked and you really weren't that far back. Congrats to both of you for doing your runs your ways.

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3/8/10 2:33 P

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OK, I talked to my friend Saturday on the way to practice. I told her that her slowing down to my pace or me trying to keep up with her is not the best thing to do. We could risk injury. I assured her again that I am perfectly fine with her going on without me. She seemed relieved! I was afraid she wouldn't listen to me as I all but begged her last week to not wait on me. Anyway, *I* am so relieved now to know that I'm not going to be holding her back, and I won't be going into practice with a bit of dread like I had been.

We had a 2.25 mile route with a 190 foot total climb on Saturday, and we ran 3 min/walked 2 min intervals for the duration. My friend finished up a minute or less before I did. This coming week they take a minute away from our walk interval and add .5 miles to our longer workout on Saturday. I hope I survive that! LOL

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3/5/10 2:55 P

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Wowee, what great advice from you guys! emoticon

We already are a part of a larger group. Out entire training group is almost 200 people. We are broken down into smaller groups of 20-30 people (I've never actually counted). We have group practice 2x/week. We have to do 1 practice on our own during the week, and we don't do those together. I do know that they will let us change groups if we feel too slow or too fast for our small group eventually. She and I may end up splitting into different groups for the coached runs.

Another thing she told me from the beginning is she tends to not know how to pace herself at all when running outside, and tends to go all out at first and burn out fast. Maybe she does need to slow down a bit? emoticon

I've decided I will just tell her tomorrow on the way to practice that her slowing down for me is not a good thing to do, and neither is me pushing myself further than I can physically go at the moment. I'll let ya know how this goes. I'm so looking forward to my bright and early run tomorrow. I can't believe I'm saying this! Saturday mornings used to be for doughnuts and being lazy. NO MORE! This is my Saturday AM now: emoticon

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3/5/10 8:17 A

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I ran with two running buddies all summer and fall. They are younger than me and have been running at least a year longer than I have. Gradually they surpassed my ability. When I tried to keep up, I would have pain after a run. Injury isn't worth it. Stand up for yourself. Our strategy now is to meet whenever we're done and go for coffee. The social time is after the run, not during.

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3/4/10 9:02 P

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Do you have a local track that you could meet at? Or a gym that you could run on treadmills next to each other?

With the track you wouldn't be able to talk to each other...but you could both be comitted for the same amount of time. When I first started running (from not running one bit at all) my husband and I went to our local track. He basically taught me to run...he'd be doing 3 miles and I'd do 1...and eventually the runs got longer. Worked out pretty well.

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3/4/10 6:20 P

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Lots of great advise here....most important especially when you are new to running is to not work on speed until you have been running for quite a while and re ready for it and then GRADUALLY..I run alone because of where I live but I have some cyber running friends here on SP and if I lived somewhere it would work, I like the idea of a group since at any time there would be people of different paces either because of their level of training or injuries etc.

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3/4/10 5:47 P

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You guys could consider 'pacing each other' virtually instead of actually running together every time. Join or make a Spark team and post your miles there. Maybe eventually you'll be able to share your Long Slow Runs once in awhile.

I've never run with a group, but Mike's idea really brightened my day. I'm facing some runs with a SIGNIFICANTLY faster bff (her first-time HM time was 1:48 - I'm hoping to finish it in under 2:15) I'm supposed to help with her running class soon - so I'm hoping against hope that your suggestion works for me, Mike!

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3/4/10 5:00 P

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Maybe you guys can find a running group to join together. The bigger the pool of runners, the more likely you'll both find someone at your own speed.

Her slowing down or you speeding up is not really a good solution, but if you can continue helping each other to get out there and run by going with each other to a larger group run, you might get the best of both worlds.

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3/4/10 4:18 P

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OMG, my story exactly!!! Mine started when my husband had been running with a running group, the smaller group that were his pace were women and I was JEALOUS, primarily because all I would hear about was them and I wasn't involved in running at all. So when his group was coming to an end when he finished his marathon, he was thinking of rejoining just to stay with the group. I was thinking there is no way I want that to happen so I decided to become a runner so we could do this "together". His pace is so much faster than me, even when he is slowing down, I could barely breath and was literally dying to keep up. I told him to go ahead, but he felt he needed to stay back with me and not get in a good run. Now we don't run together at all and I'm sure he wishes he was back with his group....all that backfired! I keep hoping my pace will increase the more I do it and we'll be able to do this together, but unfortunately he's getting better too.

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3/4/10 2:10 P

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Goshers, that sounds like a tough one. I myself couldn't even imagine trying to train with a partner. I can't stand when people are trying to talk to me when I'm in the midst of focus on running just to the next block!

Well, why don't you just have an honest conversation with her. Sounds like you guys were good friends already, so I would think she wouldn't be offended by you doing so. Just remember to use the "I feel" messages. Good luck with it, and your 5K!
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3/4/10 1:30 P

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I can totally relate to you... I am the slower one of my bunch and also like to be pushed but not beyond what I KNOW I can do. I've been injured and don't want to go there again. I still run with my sister who "gets me" but it's always on one of her "extra runs" where pace doesn't matter to her - she's even started telling me when I'm speeding up too much :) But I'm leary of running with anyone else. I don't like people to have to wait on me and I don't want to be pushed beyond what I can maintain!

I am stronger (and faster) this year and I beleive it's because I trusted MY training and didn't try and keep up with others!

Bottom line is that you just need to be honest with her and while you may not be able to run together, you can still encourage one another in your different training runs.





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3/4/10 12:33 P

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Ok I have the answer for you. I found a new friend on face book and I'm a runner and she is not, I agreed to walk with her 3 days a week and I tried to push her to run and after about a week she told me that she does not like to be pushed and he is not having fun now (not in those exact words) But I did realize that it is really hard to have two people trying to do the same thing at that same time that are not equal. I now run and she still walks, we went from still meeting up and her walking and me running to us not meeting up any more. Bottom line is it does not work. I miss seeing my new friend but it is unfair to the both of us, I have now found a group of ladies that run and now I will start with them the only difference is I have to meet them at 5am and my Sparkbuddy we were meeting while my son was in school.

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3/4/10 12:24 P

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Carla,

This is one of the toughest parts about finding a running partner, but do not feel the need to speed up. You will up your risk for injury not to mention not allowing your body to SLOWLY adapt to running.

Tell her you need to slow down and let her go ahead if she needs to.

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3/4/10 12:21 P

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Tell her before you train again. That she has progressed awesome and believe it or not - you just can't keep up with her when she is at her best. Tell her to go ahead and you will either catch-up or tell her to finish ahead and have an ice-cold water for you when you finish. Running is hard to do with a partner....I always run solo, never found someone who can match my pace they are either too slow or too face, none are just right...But we do race the same races.

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A friend and I are doing the 5K training program together. Before we started she was convinced that because I have been exercising regularly and she had not that I would 'leave her in the dust'. That's not the case. I told her my extra weight (she weighs 40+ lb less than me) and her lack of activity would probably make us more even. Hmm, that's not the case either. She could easily leave ME in the dust! LOL

My issue is I am slowing her down and she is trying to get me to speed up. I tell her to go ahead, I'll catch up, but she won't listen. I think she's annoyed that I am slower than her. While I don't mind being pushed, if I'm gasping for breath to keep up with her I should slow down a bit, right?

How do I make her understand this?


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